White E24s - especially "M"s - where did they all

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White E24s - especially "M"s - where did they all

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Soperman made a comment about white cars.

Since its raining and dreary outside, I decided to get my anorak on and count up the number of RHD white (Alpine) M635CSi which were produced. I'm pretty sure my figure is accurate - and find that out of a total of 522 cars, 72 were white. That's nearly 14%. One in seven.

Yet we seldom see them for sale. There are a couple on ebay at the moment, but when did you last see one for sale/on the road?

I've owned upwards of 25 E24s, including three "M"s, but only one white car (the AVA Turbo). That's the only white E24 I've ever been to look at or purchased. (I'd quite like another one, actually!)

So what is it about white E24s? Have they suffered proportionately higher accidents and been written-off? Is it because, being white, they show rust more and have been scrapped? Or is it that there is a conspiracy to hide these ones away in garages & barns, never to see the light of day?

Anybody got any thoughts :-k
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Mine hides away in the winter :wink:
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Sold this around 5 years ago. Apparently rotting away in a front garden!!

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I've seen 2 of probably 8 M635's in white.
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ron wrote:Sold this around 5 years ago. Apparently rotting away in a front garden!!

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Rotting then or rotting now with the new owner?
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I have a slightly different theory which is that different colours actually rot at different rates, simply because the amount of paint that you need to cover is different. I think that white is a bad colour for this.

Most 6ers have a base layer of filler primer which is white. The amount of white primer and white topcoat you need over that to make it look OK is tiny.

I have seen several white cars that rusted in weird places that you wouldn't normally see (like on the rear quarters forwards of the rear lights) and when investigated there just seemed to be very little paint there, and very little filler primer underneath that (presumably because the panel itself was a good shape to start with). On the same car the filler primer on the (typically somewhat lumpy) front wing pressings could be up to 1.5mm thick in places; no comparison really.

Has anyone else noticed the same thing?

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Pod wrote:..........

I've owned upwards of 25 E24s, including three "M"s, but only one white car (the AVA Turbo). That's the only white E24 I've ever been to look at or purchased. (I'd quite like another one, actually!)
And that wasn't white when it left the factory IIRC?
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sansouci wrote:
ron wrote:Sold this around 5 years ago. Apparently rotting away in a front garden!!

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Rotting then or rotting now with the new owner?
Pictured there rotting in Ron's front garden. Last seen a year or two ago rotting in the new owner's uncle's rear garden. Been sitting on grass for at least three years. The absolute worst thing you can do to a car. It'll not be pretty now.
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Brucey wrote:I have a slightly different theory which is that different colours actually rot at different rates, simply because the amount of paint that you need to cover is different. I think that white is a bad colour for this.

Most 6ers have a base layer of filler primer which is white. The amount of white primer and white topcoat you need over that to make it look OK is tiny.

I have seen several white cars that rusted in weird places that you wouldn't normally see (like on the rear quarters forwards of the rear lights) and when investigated there just seemed to be very little paint there, and very little filler primer underneath that (presumably because the panel itself was a good shape to start with). On the same car the filler primer on the (typically somewhat lumpy) front wing pressings could be up to 1.5mm thick in places; no comparison really.

Has anyone else noticed the same thing?

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We need someone with a paint thickness gauge to do some comparisons on various-coloured cars!
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I really want a nice Alpine White M635csi or ALPINA Model [-o< [-o< [-o<
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Sorry, but I simply do not like white cars, period. They just don't do it for me.

However, even I might be tempted by the car that appears at 2 minutes 11 seconds into this video.

https://youtu.be/u7tt3dDfHXE
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Soperman wrote:Sorry, but I simply do not like white cars, period. They just don't do it for me.
Yep, 'orrible things.

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of course there are some that you would sooner see in you rear view mirror than others; :wink:
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Another white M635 on eBay - #039

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I wonder, Pod, if white M635s are as scarce as you initially thought. Yet another example has surfaced on ebay. Chassis 0760039, with 107k miles has been listed at £28k(!)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1985-BMW-M6-C ... 1497518076

This car was withdrawn from a physical auction in May of this year.
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Soperman wrote:I wonder, Pod, if white M635s are as scarce as you initially thought. Yet another example has surfaced on ebay. Chassis 0760039, with 107k miles has been listed at £28k(!)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1985-BMW-M6-C ... 1497518076

This car was withdrawn from a physical auction in May of this year.
Great minds think alike :lol:

You may like to view the post I made in the fs section about this very vehicle :P
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Post by David Muench »

Just remembered this one I went to look at a couple of years ago, damaged repairable they said, not an M though. VBAEC820308187161
Another one to cross off the list.

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The one thing I noticed on my Alpine white M635CSI is that it left the factory without clear coat, actually says so on the invoice. In the 80's it was common for colors without metallic to receive single stage paint which will not age as well as urethane clear coats.
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I like white.
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Nice car!

Looks like Smokey needed to pick a taller vehicle to hide behind when he takes a whiz. :wink:
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hornhospital wrote:Nice car!

Looks like Smokey needed to pick a taller vehicle to hide behind when he takes a whiz. :wink:
Now we know what the bear does in the woods lol... :D
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