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Re: Mystery spot in the toolkit box

Post by olympia57 » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:15 am

ron wrote:
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This fabled emergency window crank tool is like the dog that's crapping on my drive , known of but never seen...... :evil:
Can someone post a photo of the damned thing so I know what to go searching for .
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You shouldn't need one Don. Your window motors will already have the manual override fitted.
You've always told me that Ron ,and you will be 101% correct , but whenever someone looks at the tool kit the first thing they say is " pity it's incomplete ...."
I'd buy one just to fill the space in the tray.
Strange though ,I've googled it and although some images pop up they are a different shape to the indent in the tray.
I may just make an imitation one just to make it look complete . :lol:

If you look at the tray moulding that 86_6series mentions ,you'll see that the indent for that tool is different than the same on mine (ignore the blu tac in the trough ) , confusing .is it possible that that indent is for something else on that particular year of manufacture ?
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Re: Mystery spot in the toolkit box

Post by ron » Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:44 pm

olympia57 wrote:
Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:15 am

I'd buy one just to fill the space in the tray.
I'll try and find one for you to give you peace of mind!
They are ALWAYS rustier than you thought!!!!!!
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Re: Mystery spot in the toolkit box

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ron wrote:
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"peace of mind!"
On it's way.
They are ALWAYS rustier than you thought!!!!!!
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Re: Mystery spot in the toolkit box

Post by DRPM635CSi » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:22 am

Every claimed to be complete toolkit I've ever seen is always missing the Hirschmann antenna collar wing spanner tool. Not surprising really since I got the very last two in known existance from the desk drawer of a Hirschmann employee many years ago, but yeah, every toolkit is missing the bridge tool by Hirschmann for undoing the collar around the base of the antenna. The one with the two rectangular reliefs in it you've always just used a pair of circlip pliers to unscrew. There's actually a specific tool made by Hirschamann which is stored wrapped up inside the BMW cloth inside the toolkit.

Just for reference, Below is what a properly complete toolkit looks like with the antenna wipe, correct (yes that light blue colour without the logo is genuine and original) cloth + the Hirschmann wing collar spanner tool. This is an M635CSi toolkit, so it also contains the extra spanner for adjusting the throttle bodies.

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Re: Mystery spot in the toolkit box

Post by Pod » Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:01 pm

Oh dear, you’ve really started something now.. :lol:

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Re: Mystery spot in the toolkit box

Post by DRPM635CSi » Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:42 am

Pod wrote:
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Oh dear, you’ve really started something now.. :lol:
Maybe I should refrain from mentioning the two red plasticised-coated metal finger ring pull tools provided with the factory option DOM locking anti-theft wheel bolt kit often factory/dealer included as standard in the 80's too then? I see plenty of photos of toolkits with the DOM wheel lock kits included in the toolkit, but I've never seen the two red metal finger pull tools that were a part of that kit used for removing the plastic dust caps from the heads of the locking bolts. I have them in mine stored under the globe foam (along with the printed instructions for the kit), but my examples are the only ones I've ever seen. I expect as they're just a couple of bits of metal wire bent into a loop shape with a hook on the end and plastic-dipped red, they were just thrown out by the majority of owners along with the plastic bag and instructions they came with.

The only wheels I've actually seen with recessed enough bolt holes to make the DOM wheel lock dust caps sit flush with the hub and thus very difficult to get a finger nail behind to prise off are the genuine BBS forged 16x7.5" E28 ///M5 wheels.
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Re: Mystery spot in the toolkit box

Post by Jono B good » Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:04 am

O.K. so where is a pic with never seen tow hook in its' rightfull place? :-k
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Re: Mystery spot in the toolkit box

Post by sharkfan » Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:24 pm

Did all E24's come with Hirschmann aerials?
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Re: Mystery spot in the toolkit box

Post by DRPM635CSi » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:59 am

sharkfan wrote:
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Did all E24's come with Hirschmann aerials?
More than willing to be proved wrong, but I believe so yes. I certainly have never heard of or seen any other brand of antenna in an E24 aside from when an owner has replaced their broken or vandalised Hirschmann with a cheap and noisy aftermarket Chinese made piece of multi-fit generic crap from Radio Shack like mine had when bought. There were various different models of Hirschmann used throughout the ~14 year production run, some with four segment masts, others 5 segment etc, but I believe they were all Hirschmann. Perhaps really early cars with the antenna in the front fender instead the rear had something different? I don't know about that because really early cars are all extinct where I live.

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Re: Mystery spot in the toolkit box

Post by sharkfan » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:22 pm

I only asked as I've had four E24's and none of them had Hirschmann aerials...
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Re: Mystery spot in the toolkit box

Post by DRPM635CSi » Sat Jul 28, 2018 1:03 am

sharkfan wrote:
Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:22 pm
I only asked as I've had four E24's and none of them had Hirschmann aerials...
Yeah that's not uncommon down here either. It was hilarious fun back in the day to snap car aerials or bend them into funny shapes. When that inevitably happened, the Hirschmanns were obviously expensive or downright impossible to repair depending on where you lived and whether there was a dealer in your country for them. They also mount in the car with an elaborate maze of ladder straps, unistrut and various screws and bolts that are completely incompatible with any other antenna. The easy solution was to take the car to the local car radio place and have some part-time car thief replace it with a Chinese multi-fit antenna instead that mounts only via the collar where it protrudes through the panelwork. A couple of crimp-on connectors later and you're away. Of course the mast would be too tall, the collar a different shape and style, extend/retract far too quickly and make an horrendous noise inside the cabin whilst doing so, but at least you'd be able to pick up radio stations again.

Retrofitting a genuine Hirschmann back in again to look original fit after some rabid babboon has done the above to your car, is neither easy nor much fun.

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Re: Mystery spot in the toolkit box

Post by Jono B good » Sat Jul 28, 2018 1:27 am

What wrench goes in the slot 3rd from the left? Achk! for the life of me I cannot source it at my local BMW wreckers.
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Re: Mystery spot in the toolkit box

Post by hornhospital » Sat Jul 28, 2018 2:17 am

Jono B good wrote:
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What wrench goes in the slot 3rd from the left? Achk! for the life of me I cannot source it at my local BMW wreckers.
It's a ring spanner. 12/13mm if I recall correctly. I'm too lazy to walk out and check. :(
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Re: Mystery spot in the toolkit box

Post by Jono B good » Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:06 pm

Thanks I think I still have some tools I squirreled away from when I owned my 2 5ers.
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Re: Mystery spot in the toolkit box

Post by bpoliakoff » Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:15 pm

DRPM635CSi wrote:
Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:22 am
Every claimed to be complete toolkit I've ever seen is always missing the Hirschmann antenna collar wing spanner tool. Not surprising really since I got the very last two in known existance from the desk drawer of a Hirschmann employee many years ago, but yeah, every toolkit is missing the bridge tool by Hirschmann for undoing the collar around the base of the antenna. The one with the two rectangular reliefs in it you've always just used a pair of circlip pliers to unscrew. There's actually a specific tool made by Hirschamann which is stored wrapped up inside the BMW cloth inside the toolkit.

Just for reference, Below is what a properly complete toolkit looks like with the antenna wipe, correct (yes that light blue colour without the logo is genuine and original) cloth + the Hirschmann wing collar spanner tool. This is an M635CSi toolkit, so it also contains the extra spanner for adjusting the throttle bodies.Image Image

What you are not patting yourself on the back for is the highly unobtainable and rare, telescoping "M" sparkplug wrench of which I happen to have two NOS ones.
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Re: Mystery spot in the toolkit box

Post by bpoliakoff » Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:21 pm

DRPM635CSi wrote:
Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:22 am
Every claimed to be complete toolkit I've ever seen is always missing the Hirschmann antenna collar wing spanner tool. Not surprising really since I got the very last two in known existance from the desk drawer of a Hirschmann employee many years ago, but yeah, every toolkit is missing the bridge tool by Hirschmann for undoing the collar around the base of the antenna. The one with the two rectangular reliefs in it you've always just used a pair of circlip pliers to unscrew. There's actually a specific tool made by Hirschamann which is stored wrapped up inside the BMW cloth inside the toolkit.

Just for reference, Below is what a properly complete toolkit looks like with the antenna wipe, correct (yes that light blue colour without the logo is genuine and original) cloth + the Hirschmann wing collar spanner tool. This is an M635CSi toolkit, so it also contains the extra spanner for adjusting the throttle bodies.Image Image
No one is noticing the very, very rare telescoping "M" sparkplug wrench that is virtually unobtainable. I do happen to have 2 NOS ones
81 Euro 635 M90 with motronic. Currently under a complete nut and bolt restoration. Pictures at
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Re: Mystery spot in the toolkit box

Post by bpoliakoff » Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:24 pm

Hered is what a correct "M" sparkplug wrench looks like
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Re: Mystery spot in the toolkit box

Post by DRPM635CSi » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:17 am

bpoliakoff wrote:
Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:21 pm
No one is noticing the very, very rare telescoping "M" sparkplug wrench that is virtually unobtainable.
To be fair, I think most are aware of this tool for the ///M engined cars. I did not realise they were NLA to be honest, but by the same token I'm not surprised. I do remember an early mechanic I used to take my car to telling me to never lose that tool otherwise he wouldn't be able to change my spark plugs for me. His own extension sockets had too thick walls to get down the ports and around the spark plugs and still be able to lift the plugs back out again. He presumably didn't have a set of long enough tube sockets to do the job, so he actually had to use the BMW tool in my toolkit to do the spark plugs.

I thought that was particularly naff of him to not have the correct tools to work on cars in his workshop equipment such that I as the owner actually had to provide him the correct tool as well. I stopped taking the car to him shortly thereafter. My socket has now been rechromed as there was some chipped bits flaking off and the exposed metal underneath was rusting, and stays in the toolkit never to be used again.

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Re: Mystery spot in the toolkit box

Post by Jono B good » Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:29 pm

The way you have so much work put into your toolkit let alone your 6er I hope you invested in an alarm system. Or is the OEM alarm system working still? Don't worry I'm NOT going to fly to aussieland to nick your tool kit mate LOL :lol:
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