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Headlight sides

Post by randall977 » Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:33 am

My 6 has the early type headlights with metal dishes behind each lamp. The high beams have been replaced with domed sealed units - no good for the wipers. The low beams are a bit tarnished.

Are these headlights sided? As in are the high beams two different part numbers? The existing low beams are both the same...

I'm slightly confused looking at ETK etc. I'm in the UK btw.

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Post by randall977 » Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:56 pm

The answer btw - is that my car has E12 lights (even though it's E28 based). The lights are not sided...

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Post by tschultz » Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:23 pm

My understanding is they are the same, but I'd be curious to learn for sure.

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Post by Ralph in Socal » Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:23 am

The ones pictured appear to be aftermarket Hella H1/H4 units. The screw on trim ring is a give away.

83 and up Euro e24 Low Beam Headlights are sided as the rear mounts are different from left to right. High Beam are identical. I'm not sure about early cars.

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Post by randall977 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:52 pm

Hi Ralph - do you mean the chrome outer ring? The reflectors are 'Made in Germany' Hella - identical to the originals...

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Post by Ralph in Socal » Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:49 pm

randall977 wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:52 pm
Hi Ralph - do you mean the chrome outer ring? The reflectors are 'Made in Germany' Hella - identical to the originals...
Yes, that chrome outer ring is secured with 3 small screws and also secures the headlight globe in the bucket. The bucket is secured to the frame with adjustabe mounts for beam alignment.

The Hella H1/H4 headlight system is readily available on Amazon and ebay. Typically used in place of substandard US type sealed beam lights. They are very good lights.

Proper euro headlights trim rings are push on with a small metal tab. The headlights themselves are secured to the frames with adjustable mounts at the back of the light reflector/globe.

Visually the headlight lenses appear identical and probably function identically. Proper headlights are much more $$$ due to specific application and supply. Also many plastic bushings that easily fail and are not exactly cheap.

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Re: Headlight sides

Post by randall977 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:39 pm

Thanks Ralph, very interesting. So my lights are not E12 based lights but modified? Yes, the other type I've seen are much more expensive.
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Post by tschultz » Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:30 pm

Early euro's used the screw in place trim rings.. I have a set with headlight wipers.

But Ralph is correct, the ones you pictured are visibly marked Hella which means aftermarket and not E Code lights from the 80's.

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Post by zinnocoupe » Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:05 am

All very good info here. Thx :D
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Re: Headlight sides

Post by randall977 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:41 pm

My headlight assemblies are E12 based as fitted in the factory to my car. My original main beams, from the 1980's, are identical in every way to the new ones 'Made in Germany' large Hella symbol etc - see photo here;

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