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Exterior door handle broke

Post by crav4speed » Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:29 pm

So I've been having an issue with the driver exterior door handle opening the driver door and all of a sudden it stopped opening the door completely. I removed the door panel and found a metal u-shaped piece that was cracked. RealOEM calls it a "stopper" and is part #2 (51211959691) shown in the picture. The thing I'm concerned with is that part #3 (51211847767) is called a "cap" which looks to be something like the little plastic caps that go on the door latch and the part I removed from the door - pictured below - has a roller instead of the cap. If anyone is familiar with this part, has it been replaced with the new parts? RealOEM also has another part called a "stopper" (51211843859) which shows as ended.

GetBMWParts has the new parts but doesn't have a photo so I can't verify what I'll be buying.
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Post by Ralph in Socal » Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:08 am

The part you have is pot metal and can not be repaired. New parts (BMW upgraded when the problem was discovered) are stamped steel and will last much longer. I have never seen the little rubber bumper on the end though. I have never installed the rubber bumper on any retrofits I have done.

Expect the passenger side to eventually have the same problem.

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Post by nick88highline » Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:40 am

The stopper consists of one part only which has a roller on the end and is made from pot metal and that is what you get if you order a new one from BMW now. The cap is not used on these so you don't need it.
Prior to 1984 (or possibly '85), the door "stoppers" were made from pressed steel and these do not break. I would try to get the pressed steel ones, although you'll have to get them from a breakers as they are no longer available from BMW. I replaced both my "stoppers" with pressed steel ones (driver's side broke and passenger side was cracked), although it was very hard to track them down, most people know nothing about them and get very confused when you tell them why you want them.
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Post by ron » Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:21 am

This is a pressed steel item. I have 4 of each side so if you can't locate them Stateside let me know. As Ralph has mentioned, I have also never seen the cap fitted to them. The same cap fits the front door window slide assy. and I have never seen it fitted there either.

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http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showpar ... 1211847767

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Post by crav4speed » Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:57 pm

wow! Excellent information! Thank you all very much for your replies. Why is it not surprising that BMW would replace a part with a lesser quality item?!?

The problem is, it's just becoming very annoying to have to open the passenger door and lean over to open the driver door and now I worry that the passenger door could develop the same issue sooner. If these parts are really that hard to track down, then Ron, since you're selling your beautiful Highline, maybe you might be able to sell a pair to me :) Besides, I'd rather give my hard earned cash to a respected member of this board then to someone else. I've sent you a pm
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Post by hornhospital » Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:19 pm

crav4speed wrote:Why is it not surprising that BMW would replace a part with a lesser quality item?!?
Bill, I think the stamped steel version is a substantial improvement. At least I've never known of one to break, whereas the pot metal (zinc) ones break frequently.
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Post by crav4speed » Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:14 pm

hornhospital wrote:
crav4speed wrote:Why is it not surprising that BMW would replace a part with a lesser quality item?!?
Bill, I think the stamped steel version is a substantial improvement. At least I've never known of one to break, whereas the pot metal (zinc) ones break frequently.
The pot metal parts were the replacement for the stamped steel parts. As Nick mentioned, the stamped steel parts were discontinued in favor of the pot metal ones. Although, Ralph says the new ones are steel. Either way, I would much prefer the steel ones over the pot metal ones as per everyone's comments.
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Post by Ralph in Socal » Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:12 am

crav4speed wrote:
hornhospital wrote:
crav4speed wrote:Why is it not surprising that BMW would replace a part with a lesser quality item?!?
Bill, I think the stamped steel version is a substantial improvement. At least I've never known of one to break, whereas the pot metal (zinc) ones break frequently.
The pot metal parts were the replacement for the stamped steel parts. As Nick mentioned, the stamped steel parts were discontinued in favor of the pot metal ones. Although, Ralph says the new ones are steel. Either way, I would much prefer the steel ones over the pot metal ones as per everyone's comments.
Do not take my word for gospel truth. I could very well be mistaken but I do find the stamped steel units in the newer cars. I had to replace one in an 84 633 because it was pot metal.

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Edit: Pic below shows parts recently pulled from an 87 635. Stamped steel on the later cars??
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Re: Exterior door handle broke

Post by Stanleymanly » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:05 pm

Does anyone have a driver's side exterior door handle? The pot metal in mine broke and it is the only thing keeping me from getting my car back from the painter. So far I have ordered two from recyclers and they both came in broken (after each assured me they were fine) and I ordered a NOS one from EBay only to find that after it did not show up in a few days that the seller never had it. I will pay any reasonable price!

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Post by sharkfan » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:56 am

Stanleymanly wrote:Does anyone have a driver's side exterior door handle? The pot metal in mine broke and it is the only thing keeping me from getting my car back from the painter. So far I have ordered two from recyclers and they both came in broken (after each assured me they were fine) and I ordered a NOS one from EBay only to find that after it did not show up in a few days that the seller never had it. I will pay any reasonable price!
It would really help if you gave out some very necessary information such as your location, the year of your car and whether you are after a chrome or shadowline handle.

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Re: Exterior door handle broke

Post by Candycj1 » Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:21 pm

Hoping Ron is still watching this thread and has the bits - the passenger side stopper on my 88 highline is missing entirely, any chance you still have one of the steels for that side and are willing to sell?

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Re: Exterior door handle broke

Post by ron » Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:27 pm

They are ALWAYS rustier than you thought!!!!!!
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Re: Exterior door handle broke

Post by Candycj1 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:56 pm

Hi Ron

Its part 2 (the 'stopper') but specifically for the passenger side - i can't see on OEM which one is lefty and which is right? Also as per the earlier thread, i'd really want the pressed steel version for future proofing - all the online sellers i've seen have the pot metal version. Any chance you have the steel
one?

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Re: Exterior door handle broke

Post by Carlp336 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:25 pm

i may have these still will look this evening
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Re: Exterior door handle broke

Post by Candycj1 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:22 pm

thanks - i should clarify 'passenger side' was referring to a UK RHD car!

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Re: Exterior door handle broke

Post by Candycj1 » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:24 pm

Just to post the happy ending on this thread, Ron sorted the spares for me and a bit of fiddling later (is there any easy job on these?) i can now open my doors from the outside. Seems a basic ask but very satisfying - think i'm winning, albeit *very* slowly...

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