Testing out a new look - Hartge 3pc
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Testing out a new look - Hartge 3pc
I really like the original BBS 3-piece on this car but have always drooled over the Hartge wheels.
She's riding a little high so thinking about lowering springs. Gonna call Paddock in Denver as he did 5280M6's and it looks sinister.
She's riding a little high so thinking about lowering springs. Gonna call Paddock in Denver as he did 5280M6's and it looks sinister.
2011 1 Series M
1974 2002 Turbo
1987 M6 (2/87) - Sold
1984 M635CSi (10/84) - Sold
2012 335 xi
2009 328 xi
1974 2002 Turbo
1987 M6 (2/87) - Sold
1984 M635CSi (10/84) - Sold
2012 335 xi
2009 328 xi
orval2 wrote:I do not know why but I like it with those rims
Always loved your car
Thanks!AusE24 wrote:They look great.
I agree but sometimes you've got to switch things up to keep it fresh and these are FRESH.M6Zealot wrote:Those are nice wheels, I am afraid to say I like the BBS better. Just my opinion.
Thanks for the honest feedback men.
2011 1 Series M
1974 2002 Turbo
1987 M6 (2/87) - Sold
1984 M635CSi (10/84) - Sold
2012 335 xi
2009 328 xi
1974 2002 Turbo
1987 M6 (2/87) - Sold
1984 M635CSi (10/84) - Sold
2012 335 xi
2009 328 xi
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I like the BBS's and this set alike~if you can afford to have 2-3 sets of wheels for the 6er, will guarantee a fresh feel when rotating them every few months! Very nice look overall and lowering the suspension will surely cause more excitement
85 M635 Schwarz (Found a new home in L.A.)
95 MBZ E36 AMG Coupe widebody Polar White
88 BMW E28 535is White
2000 Jaguar XJR Anthracite
2016 GMC Sierra Double Cab SLT- All Terrain Black
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95 MBZ E36 AMG Coupe widebody Polar White
88 BMW E28 535is White
2000 Jaguar XJR Anthracite
2016 GMC Sierra Double Cab SLT- All Terrain Black
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Wow! So much more aggressive than before!
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'79 635CSi Revival
'80 635CSi
'83 633CSi Callaway Turbo continued as 1988 535is Turbo
SOLD: '81 635CSi/A
'79 635CSi Revival
'80 635CSi
'83 633CSi Callaway Turbo continued as 1988 535is Turbo
SOLD: '81 635CSi/A
AWESOME !!!! Just awesome Aaron I've been a fan of those Hartge wheels ever since I saw them on orval2's M635.
I agree ...... a tad lower would look better, and I'm thinking of doing the same to my M635 with same size Alpinas.
Put me down for a PM if you ever decide to part with them.
What tire sizes did you finally choose ?
I agree ...... a tad lower would look better, and I'm thinking of doing the same to my M635 with same size Alpinas.
Put me down for a PM if you ever decide to part with them.
What tire sizes did you finally choose ?
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1985 M635 #1998 (gone but not forgotten)
1994 850CSi (also gone but not forgotten)
1985 M635 #589
1985 M635 #1998 (gone but not forgotten)
1994 850CSi (also gone but not forgotten)
1985 M635 #589
Ed, from you thst is a huge compliment! Will do on that PMEd Lyerly wrote:AWESOME !!!! Just awesome Aaron I've been a fan of those Hartge wheels ever since I saw them on orval2's M635.
I agree ...... a tad lower would look better, and I'm thinking of doing the same to my M635 with same size Alpinas.
Put me down for a PM if you ever decide to part with them.
What tire sizes did you finally choose ?
235/45 and 264/40 ;I am surprised to say they really smooth out the ride.
Sounds unanimous to lower. Spring?
Jim, did you say H&R?
2011 1 Series M
1974 2002 Turbo
1987 M6 (2/87) - Sold
1984 M635CSi (10/84) - Sold
2012 335 xi
2009 328 xi
1974 2002 Turbo
1987 M6 (2/87) - Sold
1984 M635CSi (10/84) - Sold
2012 335 xi
2009 328 xi
I assume you ordered H&R springs to fit standard 635 as your Vader mobile (M6) wouldn't allow for these unless self-leveling had benn removed? Do you have part # from your H&R box?5280 M6 wrote:Yes...........H&R Sport Springs + Bilstein Sport Shocks. Try them, you will like them!Sounds unanimous to lower. Spring?
Jim, did you say H&R?
Jim
2011 1 Series M
1974 2002 Turbo
1987 M6 (2/87) - Sold
1984 M635CSi (10/84) - Sold
2012 335 xi
2009 328 xi
1974 2002 Turbo
1987 M6 (2/87) - Sold
1984 M635CSi (10/84) - Sold
2012 335 xi
2009 328 xi
Hi,
That is a nice compliment you make me.
To lower the car, it is more difficult to find the good solution for a M635 as the front suspension differs from all other E24.
The rear set is the same as the other E24 but the front one are different and need mods (I do not know which one) to adapt lowering suspension for standard E24.
Another solution is mine, but it is not a big lowering. I have now Alpina suspension kit. It is compose of specific Bilstein shock absorber and specific Eibach spring. The standard M635 have -2 cm springs, the Alpina are -3 cm.
The price of the Alpina set is just a bit more expansive than the M635 one.
Mine and a "standard M635 :
Mine alone :
Sorry to post pics of mine on your post, it is just to give an idea of Alpina set
That is a nice compliment you make me.
To lower the car, it is more difficult to find the good solution for a M635 as the front suspension differs from all other E24.
The rear set is the same as the other E24 but the front one are different and need mods (I do not know which one) to adapt lowering suspension for standard E24.
Another solution is mine, but it is not a big lowering. I have now Alpina suspension kit. It is compose of specific Bilstein shock absorber and specific Eibach spring. The standard M635 have -2 cm springs, the Alpina are -3 cm.
The price of the Alpina set is just a bit more expansive than the M635 one.
Mine and a "standard M635 :
Mine alone :
Sorry to post pics of mine on your post, it is just to give an idea of Alpina set
Is the Alpina suspension kit just shocks and srpings? I have new Bilstein Sport shocks and could order the Eibach. Do you have the part number for the Eibachs?orval2 wrote: Another solution is mine, but it is not a big lowering. I have now Alpina suspension kit. It is compose of specific Bilstein shock absorber and specific Eibach spring. The standard M635 have -2 cm springs, the Alpina are -3 cm.
The price of the Alpina set is just a bit more expansive than the M635 one.
2011 1 Series M
1974 2002 Turbo
1987 M6 (2/87) - Sold
1984 M635CSi (10/84) - Sold
2012 335 xi
2009 328 xi
1974 2002 Turbo
1987 M6 (2/87) - Sold
1984 M635CSi (10/84) - Sold
2012 335 xi
2009 328 xi
I noticed when lowering the front the lowered springs were slightly smaller dia than the factory ones. Luckily I had the old e28 hardware that fitted perfectly.
Otherwise no hassle.
I've heard u need to fit some roll center correction blocks but mine works fine without them.
Otherwise no hassle.
I've heard u need to fit some roll center correction blocks but mine works fine without them.
BMW’s
84 E24 M635csi
90 E34 M5 3.6
94 E34 540i/6 SC E85
97 E36 M3 euro SC U/C
97 Z3 2.8 widebody
OTHERS
11 Audi S5 3.0 SC
19 VW Amarok V6
84 E24 M635csi
90 E34 M5 3.6
94 E34 540i/6 SC E85
97 E36 M3 euro SC U/C
97 Z3 2.8 widebody
OTHERS
11 Audi S5 3.0 SC
19 VW Amarok V6
A,I assume you ordered H&R springs to fit standard 635 as your Vader mobile (M6) wouldn't allow for these unless self-leveling had benn removed? Do you have part # from your H&R box?
Yes, the H&R Sport springs I used I believe are the same for the '88-'89 635csi as well as the '88 M6. Both have the rear SLS, which I replaced with this spring and shock modification (I kept the rest of the SLS system intact in case the car is returned to stock at some point, but you don't have to worry about that since your Euro M635csi didn't have the SLS ).
The part #'s for the H&R springs I believe are what are marked on each spring - Rear is marked "50428" and Front is marked "50413." I'll add a couple of pics below of a front and rear spring for reference.
Orval raises a good point: There may be suspension differences between your year of the Euro M635csi and the US spec M6 like mine. I'm not certain, but I would suspect the H&R springs and Bilstein Sport shocks would be the same fitment for any E28 based 6'er. Maybe there are other suspension differences between these production runs (sway bar sizes? Control arms?) that would lead one to a different shock/spring combo for the M635csi? Why cant' these mods be simple??
Hope this info helps,
Jim
'88 M6
'85 M535i
'84 911 Carrera
'12 Audi S5 (Daily)
'85 M535i
'84 911 Carrera
'12 Audi S5 (Daily)
Hi,M6smitten wrote: Is the Alpina suspension kit just shocks and srpings? I have new Bilstein Sport shocks and could order the Eibach. Do you have the part number for the Eibachs?
It is a complete kit : springs + shock absorbers.
Part Number is 31 00 611 for "standard" E24 (serie 2 and 3, based on the E28)
and 31 00 612 for the M635CSI.
I took pics of my springs with their Alpina reference. Maybe you can try to order them seperately :
Thank you so much for the info. $3500 USD yikes!!!!! I'll ask the distributor if I can order the springs separate since I just installed new Bilstein Sports all around.
How much did the springs lower your car? 20-25 mm?
2011 1 Series M
1974 2002 Turbo
1987 M6 (2/87) - Sold
1984 M635CSi (10/84) - Sold
2012 335 xi
2009 328 xi
1974 2002 Turbo
1987 M6 (2/87) - Sold
1984 M635CSi (10/84) - Sold
2012 335 xi
2009 328 xi
OMG, I paid mine 1260? (1551$) for the complete set !!!M6smitten wrote: Thank you so much for the info. $3500 USD yikes!!!!! I'll ask the distributor if I can order the springs separate since I just installed new Bilstein Sports all around.
How much did the springs lower your car? 20-25 mm?
If I believe what is written on the spring, they are - 3cm when the Motorsport are -2cm
It is hard to say. My previous suspension was dead, so I did not measure before/after. But I am very satisfied witht the set. But honnestely, I am not sure you will see a difference between the Motorsport and the Alpina one. Alpina one are ot so low.
Maybe H&R have some lower.
Renaud