President Donald J Trump makes history...
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President Donald J Trump makes history...
President Donald J Trump makes history as the first U.S. President to be impeached twice.
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I agree it's very significant that his happened twice in his term.
A second notable fact is that in the few impeachments that have happened in our history, in this second impeachment he has the most members of his own party voting to do so. That's a pretty big justification that impeachment really is the appropriate response for his behavior.
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A second notable fact is that in the few impeachments that have happened in our history, in this second impeachment he has the most members of his own party voting to do so. That's a pretty big justification that impeachment really is the appropriate response for his behavior.
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I was going to put some members on my ignore list, and actually did so (that would have been a first for me), but then I opened my devotional passage for today and changed my mind:
1 John 4:20-21
"Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.And he has given us this command: Anyone who loves God must also love their brother and sister."
You people are my brothers and sisters. I may not agree with what you say, but I love you anyway, and we can discuss our differences without resorting to personal attacks. That is called civil discourse, something that was sorely lacking in the now-deleted thread
1 John 4:20-21
"Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.And he has given us this command: Anyone who loves God must also love their brother and sister."
You people are my brothers and sisters. I may not agree with what you say, but I love you anyway, and we can discuss our differences without resorting to personal attacks. That is called civil discourse, something that was sorely lacking in the now-deleted thread
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As I understand it, the main driving force behind the 2nd Impeachment is two-fold;
1. To stop Trump from talking about, inciting or carrying out further attacks on the U.S. Constitution before the inauguration of Biden on the 20th January, and
2. If successful, to enable a vote on dis-barring Trump from holding any further Public Office.
Of these number 2 is perhaps the most important for the populace of the U.S. as whether you support or oppose Trump their is no doubt that he has widened the divide between the two major voting party's in the U.S. today.
Plenty of Republicans during the House of Representatives hearing stated that now is the time for healing and coming together in the country after the events of the 6th January but I do struggle to see how Trump, with his historical rhetoric up to and including 6th January, can be seen to be a part of that healing.
Trump has, for his own reasons, repeatedly refused to accept the results of the November 3rd 2020 election and even in the face of sixty-plus failed Court cases failed to find any evidence of substantive electoral fraud that could back up any of his claims and even now would refuse to state the election result was fair. This position of his, whether stubbornness, belligerence, self-aggrandisement or simply delusional, it does not matter which, is completely incompatible with the stated wishes of his own supporters of wishing the country to heal and come together.
Whether Trump is unsuccessfully impeached or if Trump had not be impeached a second time do any Trump supporters believe that he would be part of the healing and coming together process that the U.S. very, very obviously needs?
During his entire 2016 campaign and time in Office Trump has always amplified the divide between Republicans and Democrats and used insults, derision and thousands upon thousands of lies to widen that divide and polarise the two political party's further and further apart and used that divide to further his own promotion and position.
Trump's second impeachment is important for quite a few reasons that will affect the U.S. going forward for many decades to come, long after Trump id dead and gone.
1. It establishes whether any President, as Commander in Chief, is allowed to forgo his inauguration vow and attack the U.S. Constitution and the mechanisms that carry out the U.S. Constitution.
2. It might remove one of the chief divisive people from the political scene to at least enable the healing process between very obviously polarised Republican and Democrat voters in the U.S.
3. It would draw a line under Trump's behaviour as President and serve as warning shot to any and all future Presidents as to where the limit is in terms of their rhetoric and abuse of the position of POTUS.
If Trump is not convicted I do not believe that he will either go quietly from Office and/or be part of the healing and coming together that the country so very desperately needs. Without a conviction he will be able to start his 2024 Campaign from the moment the Senate impeachment hearing ends and further stoke through more lies and derision the division between the two major political forces in the U.S.
Do any Trump supporters, past or present, believe that Trump can be any part of the healing and coming together process that Trumps Republican supporters in the House of Representatives state is needed following the events of 6th January 2021?
As an aside to all this it is estimated that there will be almost 20,000 U.S. soldiers and other armed Forces stationed in the U.S. capital for the next few weeks as a protection against the domestic violence and terrorism threat to the inauguration of the next U.S.President. That is more than double the amount of soldiers and armed forces stationed overseas in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria guarding against terrorist threats there. This unfortunately speaks volumes about where the most significant terrorism threat is today in the United States.
1. To stop Trump from talking about, inciting or carrying out further attacks on the U.S. Constitution before the inauguration of Biden on the 20th January, and
2. If successful, to enable a vote on dis-barring Trump from holding any further Public Office.
Of these number 2 is perhaps the most important for the populace of the U.S. as whether you support or oppose Trump their is no doubt that he has widened the divide between the two major voting party's in the U.S. today.
Plenty of Republicans during the House of Representatives hearing stated that now is the time for healing and coming together in the country after the events of the 6th January but I do struggle to see how Trump, with his historical rhetoric up to and including 6th January, can be seen to be a part of that healing.
Trump has, for his own reasons, repeatedly refused to accept the results of the November 3rd 2020 election and even in the face of sixty-plus failed Court cases failed to find any evidence of substantive electoral fraud that could back up any of his claims and even now would refuse to state the election result was fair. This position of his, whether stubbornness, belligerence, self-aggrandisement or simply delusional, it does not matter which, is completely incompatible with the stated wishes of his own supporters of wishing the country to heal and come together.
Whether Trump is unsuccessfully impeached or if Trump had not be impeached a second time do any Trump supporters believe that he would be part of the healing and coming together process that the U.S. very, very obviously needs?
During his entire 2016 campaign and time in Office Trump has always amplified the divide between Republicans and Democrats and used insults, derision and thousands upon thousands of lies to widen that divide and polarise the two political party's further and further apart and used that divide to further his own promotion and position.
Trump's second impeachment is important for quite a few reasons that will affect the U.S. going forward for many decades to come, long after Trump id dead and gone.
1. It establishes whether any President, as Commander in Chief, is allowed to forgo his inauguration vow and attack the U.S. Constitution and the mechanisms that carry out the U.S. Constitution.
2. It might remove one of the chief divisive people from the political scene to at least enable the healing process between very obviously polarised Republican and Democrat voters in the U.S.
3. It would draw a line under Trump's behaviour as President and serve as warning shot to any and all future Presidents as to where the limit is in terms of their rhetoric and abuse of the position of POTUS.
If Trump is not convicted I do not believe that he will either go quietly from Office and/or be part of the healing and coming together that the country so very desperately needs. Without a conviction he will be able to start his 2024 Campaign from the moment the Senate impeachment hearing ends and further stoke through more lies and derision the division between the two major political forces in the U.S.
Do any Trump supporters, past or present, believe that Trump can be any part of the healing and coming together process that Trumps Republican supporters in the House of Representatives state is needed following the events of 6th January 2021?
As an aside to all this it is estimated that there will be almost 20,000 U.S. soldiers and other armed Forces stationed in the U.S. capital for the next few weeks as a protection against the domestic violence and terrorism threat to the inauguration of the next U.S.President. That is more than double the amount of soldiers and armed forces stationed overseas in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria guarding against terrorist threats there. This unfortunately speaks volumes about where the most significant terrorism threat is today in the United States.
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The installation of Xiden, tells the world that america is nothing more than a nation of spoiled children choosing rhetoric over reality or results and with little concern for the principles shaping much of our modern world.
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You do realise that isn't the UK news don't you?CSGuy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:47 pm Meanwhile back to the uk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmO-TcgxKgY
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Ha ha! You’re stuck with them nowCSGuy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:47 pm Meanwhile back to the uk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmO-TcgxKgY
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I thought you might see the relationship between Panahi's view of the inbred prince and his bitchess, and mine of British stupid and the non-contributing entitled of america.sharkfan wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:51 pmYou do realise that isn't the UK news don't you?CSGuy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:47 pm Meanwhile back to the uk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmO-TcgxKgY
Unfortunately, we do seem to be stuck with those two idiots as xiden (the installed one) strives to justify his own spawn with the importation of more non-productive, backbiting whingers.
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Amen Ken. Thank you very muchhornhospital wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:26 am I was going to put some members on my ignore list, and actually did so (that would have been a first for me), but then I opened my devotional passage for today and changed my mind:
1 John 4:20-21
"Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.And he has given us this command: Anyone who loves God must also love their brother and sister."
You people are my brothers and sisters. I may not agree with what you say, but I love you anyway, and we can discuss our differences without resorting to personal attacks. That is called civil discourse, something that was sorely lacking in the now-deleted thread
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"Healing" is a therapeutic process and NOT a political one. The appropriate avenue to go forward is "compromise." Not compromise your ethics, but bend your position to advance the common good. The difficulty is determining what is the common good that is attainable. Take the gun issue for example. What is the common good? Preventing 30,000 deaths annually or having a well armed populace to oppose a tyrannical government. I am not suggesting that we have one, but would a heavily armed population prevent a military coup in Myanmar? I am not sure if the populace agreed with the military.
As a minor point, I hate the over used expression "common ground." It's become more like no man's land
As a minor point, I hate the over used expression "common ground." It's become more like no man's land
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That is a key point. The assumption is the population would act in concert, more likely you simply have a civil war as factions fought on either side. Even the founding fathers had regulations in place concerning firearm ownership and use.sansouci wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 2:12 am Preventing 30,000 deaths annually or having a well armed populace to oppose a tyrannical government. I am not suggesting that we have one, but would a heavily armed population prevent a military coup in Myanmar? I am not sure if the populace agreed with the military.
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Wasn't the "common ground" in America once known as the middle class and yes I agree it's under attack from all sides and slowly becoming a thing of the past?sansouci wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 2:12 am "Healing" is a therapeutic process and NOT a political one. The appropriate avenue to go forward is "compromise." Not compromise your ethics, but bend your position to advance the common good. The difficulty is determining what is the common good that is attainable. Take the gun issue for example. What is the common good? Preventing 30,000 deaths annually or having a well armed populace to oppose a tyrannical government. I am not suggesting that we have one, but would a heavily armed population prevent a military coup in Myanmar? I am not sure if the populace agreed with the military.
As a minor point, I hate the over used expression "common ground." It's become more like no man's land
Ultimately, "Healing" is of no use to a divisive electorate and not everything written long ago should be canceled.
Given ongoing attacks from the likes of the pelosi's, the como's the harris's, the omars the aoc's, the Khan-Cullors, the abrams, against many of the core values (especially personal responsibility) that built this country and the old saying about he who cast the first stone comes to mind.
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Breathtaking.CSGuy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:21 pm
Given ongoing attacks from the likes of the pelosi's, the como's the harris's, the omars the aoc's, the Khan-Cullors, the abrams, against many of the core values (especially personal responsibility) that built this country and the old saying about he who cast the first stone comes to mind.
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Agreed Rob. Apparently the ONLY recourse is to keep throwing stones. That must be called personal responsibility. It wasn’t my fault!!sharkfan wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:59 pmBreathtaking.CSGuy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:21 pm
Given ongoing attacks from the likes of the pelosi's, the como's the harris's, the omars the aoc's, the Khan-Cullors, the abrams, against many of the core values (especially personal responsibility) that built this country and the old saying about he who cast the first stone comes to mind.
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Sorry, you're so unhappy. Myself, I liked my childhood in the US and that from someone whose first job was picking grapes the summer between 6th and 7th grade.
I'm also saddened many here are unable to look beyond the headlines and ask where the hate actually started and who it benefits most. Was it with those spending some 30, 40 even 50 years in politics,
or did it stem from one man, as we're told? A man with 4, not 40 years of influence. A man that gave minorities their lowest unemployment ever. A man that actually did something other than existing, to earn 2 peace prize nominations.
Sad but it seems public education has had the desired effect.
I'm also saddened many here are unable to look beyond the headlines and ask where the hate actually started and who it benefits most. Was it with those spending some 30, 40 even 50 years in politics,
or did it stem from one man, as we're told? A man with 4, not 40 years of influence. A man that gave minorities their lowest unemployment ever. A man that actually did something other than existing, to earn 2 peace prize nominations.
Sad but it seems public education has had the desired effect.
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Ok, it's old and xiden has given us so many more reasons to appreciate mean tweets since jacking with the price of gas. but 8 months in, the rehash seems worthwhile.
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Approaching 700,000 dead. Invermectin? Nope. Hydroxychloroquin? Nope. Injecting bleach? Nope.
Warp speed? It helped but.... Shots in arms? Not enough
Warp speed? It helped but.... Shots in arms? Not enough
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Actually the first compromise considered the acceptance or rejection of slavery in our Constitution. There was no middle class to speak of. Farmers, merchants, landowners and low wage workers.CSGuy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:21 pmWasn't the "common ground" in America once known as the middle class and yes I agree it's under attack from all sides and slowly becoming a thing of the past?sansouci wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 2:12 am "Healing" is a therapeutic process and NOT a political one. The appropriate avenue to go forward is "compromise." Not compromise your ethics, but bend your position to advance the common good. The difficulty is determining what is the common good that is attainable. Take the gun issue for example. What is the common good? Preventing 30,000 deaths annually or having a well armed populace to oppose a tyrannical government. I am not suggesting that we have one, but would a heavily armed population prevent a military coup in Myanmar? I am not sure if the populace agreed with the military.
As a minor point, I hate the over used expression "common ground." It's become more like no man's land
Ultimately, "Healing" is of no use to a divisive electorate and not everything written long ago should be canceled.
Given ongoing attacks from the likes of the pelosi's, the como's the harris's, the omars the aoc's, the Khan-Cullors, the abrams, against many of the core values (especially personal responsibility) that built this country and the old saying about he who cast the first stone comes to mind.
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3/5 compromise . Equal but not quite and probably the start of minority voting restrictions. Tell me that’s NOT VOTER SUPPRESSION
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Spot on Ralph
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No, actually it was a compromise to get the Constitution adopted The plan/hope was to eliminate slavery in the country. Getting a functional government, at the time, was much more important. If only we still had a functional government.
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I have to say, most of the hatred that I see in memes like that Hunter gem come from the political parties who need us to hate each other. It is not enough to simply disagree, as that doesn't motivate people to go to the polls at voting time. You must think the "other side" is evil and they must be defeated at all cost, else the nation you love will perish.
Now for the boring part where I don't call anyone evil and simply talk about data. The low price of gas we experienced during Trump's presidency was during the lockdown when the economy shutdown and people stopped driving. You could drive around the empty city streets with the top down and feel like Charlton Heston in The Omega Man. As the economy began to reopen at the end of Trump's term the price of gas and other commodities had already begun to climb again.
You can see from the chart below that despite what some memes and political party talking points say, gas prices were lower at the end of Obama's last term than they were under Trump before COVID hit and the economy shut down.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafH ... us_dpg&f=m
Don't worry though, you don't have to thank Obama for those low prices before Trump got here, they were the result of technological advances that made fracking and horizontal drilling of shale more profitable in this country. Trump may claim to have made the U.S. energy independent but the boom in domestic crude production began well before he was in office (chart below) and does not seem to have suffered any under Obama.
If you want to thank someone for bringing us closer to being energy independent thank a geophysicist not a politician.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafH ... rfpus2&f=m
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If you think gas prices in the USA are high, then compare it to the prices in my country (Netherlands).
https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/gasoline_prices/
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